Time for v45, "Liu Bei's Death." Although the volume's title certainly leaves little room for surprises, it'll be a fun read and Zhuge Liang's famous Southern campaigns will finally begin at the end!
Finally, the campaign begins! Also, I realized I accidentally typed Nanman as Naiman in pg 92, probably because I was thinking of the Naiman turks from the Chinggis Khan manga I recently translated. For those curious, Nan (南) means South, and Man (蛮) means barbarian, so Nanman literally means Southern barbarian. Incidentally, the same term was used by the Japanese ("Nanban" in Japanese pronunciation) to describe the Western Europeans, because they sailed up from Indonesia and the Philippines to reach Japan.
*VOLUME 45 NOW COMPLETE, WITH TYPO IN PAGE 92 FIXED. Download Sangokushi v45: Mediafire; Mega Sangokushi c311: Sendspace
It strikes me as very odd that Liu Shan had to stay behind and take care of the capital even as his father was on his deathbed. Since Liu Shan is only like 14 or 15 at this point, it's probably the ministers who're actually taking care of the capital. If that's so, surely they could have let the crown prince see his father one last time.
I don't want to exactly diss on Sima Yi, but... Always bet on Jia motherfucking Xu.
The cauldron full of boiling oil is actually an idea lifted from history, where Liu Bang's advisor Li Yiji was boiled alive during his mission to persuade Qi to surrender. The novel makes an explicit reference to this event but the manga leaves out Li Yiji's name.
As Sun Tzu even states in the art of war, the ruler of a state must not override the commander on the field.
And another hero falls to an ill-befitting inglorious death. I can hardly count the characters in this story that actually die good deaths.
"Liu Bei's Death".. I am sad now :( suddenly I feel very old because all of these characters I began to fall in love with in the 1991-1993 anime are dying one after another: first Zhou Yu, then Cao Cao, then Guan Yu, and finally Liu Bei. (yes, I didn't care for Zhang Fei since he was always brutal to begin with).
I recommend you to start with the anime that was directly based upon the manga series: Romance of Three kingdoms anime 1992: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPuJlah6PhM
I don't know, the anime doesn't have the highest budget and omits quite a few stuff present in the manga. Since the anime only covers up to the Red Cliffs, and I've already translated well beyond that, I think sticking with the manga is enough.
The anime series is basically a scam, although it's called Yokoyama Mitsuteru Sangokushi it's actually an entirely different adaptation with nothing in common with the manga aside from the original source material.
I really disagree. The anime was well done and it was actually a high-budget production - albeit a short series though. They mainly focused on historical events and the turning points , leaving out a lot of details and a lot of stories that fan still adore. But I think it's still a great anime that stops just after the battle of red cliff.
Toei also did a trilogy of anime movies for RotK, which isn't an adaptation of Yokoyama's manga, but is still influenced by it. That one goes all the way up to Zhuge Liang's death.
"The novel makes an explicit reference to this event but the manga leaves out Li Yiji's name."
I don't think this is correct. Mitsuteru Yokoyama's Xiang Yu and Liu Bang manga adaptation shows the event pretty clearly. In fact, it even shows Han Xin's guilt in going along with his campaign, even after knowingly it will put Li Yiji to death.
I'm talking about the reference only in Sangokushi chapter 308, not the event itself, in which Li Yiji isn't really to blame. In Romance of the Three Kingdom, Sun Quan specifically threatens Deng Zhi will share the same fate as Li Yiji (boiled alive). In the manga's dialogue, however, Li Yiji's name is not mentioned.
Ah gotcha, thx. This is probably way far into the future, but would you be willing to take up Xiang Yu and Liu Bang manga as well? Much shorter than Romance of the Three Kingdom... =)
"Liu Bei's Death".. I am sad now :( suddenly I feel very old because all of these characters I began to fall in love with in the 1991-1993 anime are dying one after another: first Zhou Yu, then Cao Cao, then Guan Yu, and finally Liu Bei. (yes, I didn't care for Zhang Fei since he was always brutal to begin with).
ReplyDeletePlease Hox, have mercy and let Liu Bei live!!! Don't translate that chapter !!!!! (LOL, jokes, but seriously I'm sad).
ReplyDeletehaving not read RoTK and having no knowledge of how the story goes or ends, this has been a wild ride and I'm excited to see where it goes from here
ReplyDeletethank you, hox!
I recommend you to start with the anime that was directly based upon the manga series: Romance of Three kingdoms anime 1992: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPuJlah6PhM
DeleteI don't know, the anime doesn't have the highest budget and omits quite a few stuff present in the manga. Since the anime only covers up to the Red Cliffs, and I've already translated well beyond that, I think sticking with the manga is enough.
DeleteThe anime series is basically a scam, although it's called Yokoyama Mitsuteru Sangokushi it's actually an entirely different adaptation with nothing in common with the manga aside from the original source material.
DeleteI really disagree. The anime was well done and it was actually a high-budget production - albeit a short series though. They mainly focused on historical events and the turning points , leaving out a lot of details and a lot of stories that fan still adore. But I think it's still a great anime that stops just after the battle of red cliff.
DeleteToei also did a trilogy of anime movies for RotK, which isn't an adaptation of Yokoyama's manga, but is still influenced by it. That one goes all the way up to Zhuge Liang's death.
DeleteRoTK? Return of The King :P ?
DeleteKongming is amazing as usual! His machinations are the highlight of this series for me.
ReplyDeleteYou'll love the upcoming arcs then. So many fun mindgames.
Delete"The novel makes an explicit reference to this event but the manga leaves out Li Yiji's name."
ReplyDeleteI don't think this is correct. Mitsuteru Yokoyama's Xiang Yu and Liu Bang manga adaptation shows the event pretty clearly. In fact, it even shows Han Xin's guilt in going along with his campaign, even after knowingly it will put Li Yiji to death.
I'm talking about the reference only in Sangokushi chapter 308, not the event itself, in which Li Yiji isn't really to blame. In Romance of the Three Kingdom, Sun Quan specifically threatens Deng Zhi will share the same fate as Li Yiji (boiled alive). In the manga's dialogue, however, Li Yiji's name is not mentioned.
DeleteHope that clears things up.
Ah gotcha, thx. This is probably way far into the future, but would you be willing to take up Xiang Yu and Liu Bang manga as well? Much shorter than Romance of the Three Kingdom... =)
DeleteYes, of course, I'm quite interested in doing it, but the question is when. It's still pretty long though, it'd take me 2 years to finish it.
DeleteBtw, what happened to Historie, did it go on hiatus?
ReplyDeleteNot entirely sure, to be honest.
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